At some point in our lives, most of us wonder about our ancestors. Where did they live? Were there any famous — or infamous — people in our family trees? Are we related to royalty? I knew there would most likely be more questions than answers, but in deciding to uncover what I could of my family’s history, I had no idea it would become such an absorbing, intriguing mystery.
After watching the BBC‘s recent series of Who Do You Think You Are? in which various celebrities are helped by experts to dig into their family heritage, often with surprising results, I became interested in tracing what I could of my own family’s roots. So a couple of weeks ago I signed up at GenesReunited. I chose this site simply because I’m already a member of FriendsReunited and although I rarely visit that site, the association of GenesReunited with FriendsReunited was enough to suggest it to me as a starting point. There are, of course, many other genealogy sites, which I may discuss in later posts.
GenesReunited provides access to information held in the registers of England and Wales — i.e. not Scotland or Northern Ireland. (To look through these, researchers must turn to other sites.) The registers cover Births, Marriages and Deaths from 1837 to 1983 and from 1984 to 2002, as well as the results of the Census held every ten years from 1841 to 1901 (with the exception of 1881). There are also two military registers containing information on WW1 and WW2 Deaths.
When I first signed up, I very soon found myself paying £5 for 50 credits which were valid for seven days. These credits allow you to view the more detailed information held in the registers, because initial searches using the GenesReunited search engine will provide only scant details that don’t actually tell you very much. I found I was looking at so many entries and using up my 50 credits so quickly that a couple of days later I signed up for a six-month membership for £34.95 which gives unlimited access to the records.
The register entries in the Births, Marriages and Deaths are listed in quarterly blocks for each year — January to March, April to June, July to September and October to December. The older the records, the more difficult the original documents (presented in PDF format) can be to read, particularly where they are hand-written. Fortunately, in the case of Census information at least, the GenesReunited search engine presents the extracted information matching your search query in a much clearer form, together with an option to view the original register entry. However, the entries in the registers are not the actual birth, marriage or death certificates — they are merely the register entries with references to Volume and Page numbers that will assist the government’s General Register Office (part of the Office of National Statistics) locate the original document when you apply to have a copy sent to you (at a cost of £7.00 per certificate). So if you’re unsure of your ancestor’s year of birth, for example, you can make some assumptions based on the search results, which may provide a clue such as the district where the birth was registered. This will allow you to discard some results while concentrating on others.
So — having described the ground rules for some basic research, how did I get on?
In order for me to continue my explanation beyond this point, I now have to reveal some personal information that may be new to you: Bob Kingsley is not the name I was given at birth. As a youngster with a wish to pursue a career in broadcasting, I’d decided my given name wasn’t really a suitable “on-air” name, so I unoffically adopted the name Bob Kingsley during my last couple of years at school (when I was honing my DJ skills at hospital radio), and then made it official by Deed Poll many years later.
I was born Ian Michael French in 1955. (That’s me on the left, at four years of age!) Here’s my entry, amongst a long list of French births (it’s a common surname), as it appears in the register for April to June 1955:
You can see that it shows my first name, my middle initial, my mother’s maiden name, the District in which the birth was registered and the Volume and Page reference (which I’ve deliberately obscured).
It’s easier to trace one’s family tree backwards through the paternal line rather than the maternal side because the family surname is always passed from father to son. When daughters marry, their given surname is replaced by their husband’s surname, so it’s fortunate that many of the register entries — and particularly the actual certificates — include the mother’s or wife’s maiden name, giving you at least a fighting chance of tracing the maternal line backwards to a certain extent.
Of course, one of the best places to start researching your family tree is by having conversations with the immediate members of your own family. In my case, only my elder sister Jean (pictured right in 2008) survives. I was able to establish and confirm the most recent familial connections with Jean’s help — and also by examining copies of some of the family’s birth, marriage and death certificates she’s kept safely in a little box for many years.
Jean is the eldest child in our family, having been born in 1941. Our brother, Edward (“Ted” – pictured left, around 1968) was born in 1946, but died in 1969 at only 23 years of age. I was an unexpected late arrival in 1955. Our father, born Frank John Edward French in 1915, was an Elecrical Engineer who worked for the London Electricity Board (LEB). He died in 1964 at the age of 49 after a long illness, when I was only nine. Our mother, born Margaret Annie Una Wells, was born in 1917 and died aged 79 in 1996. It’s to my regret that I never really discussed the family’s history with Mum — or when I did, I never committed any of it to memory or paper.

My immediate family tree
I never knew either of my grandfathers, as they had both died before I was born. I knew my grandmother on my mother’s side better than my paternal grandmother, but to be honest I have only hazy memories of both. However, my mother’s birth certificate from 1917 provided the names of my maternal grandfather and grandmother: they were Harry Wells and Margaret Wells, formerly Hands (pictured left). Grandfather Harry’s occupation was listed as Pioneer Royal Engineer (Dock Labourer). They lived in Lynmouth Road, Walthamstow, then in the county of Essex. (I remember my mother telling me that in her young days Walthamstow was a quiet country hamlet. It’s long since been subsumed into east London.)

My mother’s immediate family tree
(click for larger image)
My mother (pictured right in the mid-1980s) had several siblings: Sidney, Harry, Stanley, Leslie, Gladys, Patricia, Dennis and Reginald. Only a few are still living. I spoke to Reg and to Pat in an effort to fill in as many gaps as I could on Mum’s side of the tree. Reg told me that his mother Margaret had the unusual middle name of McKenzie (i.e. Margaret McKenzie Hands), was born in Edinburgh in Scotland, and at some point migrated with her mother and father (whom he could only remember ever calling “Mr and Mrs Hands”) south to London, where she met Harry, who was born a Londoner. As GenesReunited doesn’t have any records for Scotland, I’ve not been able to work on tracing “Mr and Mrs Hands”, grandmother Margaret’s parents — but I think it’s a strong possibility that Margaret Hands was given the middle name of McKenzie because that was her mother’s maiden name.

Mr & Mrs Hands – my great-grandparents on my mother’s side
I’ve not done any work tracing back along grandfather Harry’s line yet, because at this stage I’m more interested in finding out more about my father’s line as I have a little more information to go on.
One interesting aside is the fact that my father had a younger sister, Elizabeth French (“Bet”), and Bet married one of my mother’s brothers, Harry Wells. Bet and Harry became professional ballroom dancers. I’ve tried unsuccessfully to find any information about them on the web, so if you’re reading this and can provide me with any information, I’d be grateful if you’d contact me.
So what about my father, Frank John Edward French (pictured left in 1959), and his line? Jean and I knew he was born on 3rd January 1915 and that he’d died on 2nd February 1964. Jean provided me with a copy of my parent’s marriage certificate from 1939, which lists Dad’s father — my paternal grandfather — as Frank John French. (The passing on of fathers’ and mothers’ first names to their offspring is a frequent occurrence in family trees.) My father’s residence at the time of the marriage was Farmilo Road in Walthamstow, while my mother lived in Boundary Road, Walthamstow. Grandfather Frank’s occupation was given as Cabinet Maker.
Jean didn’t know exactly when grandfather Frank died — she could only remember that she was quite young at the time. So I began searching the GenesReunited death records for any Frank French who’d died between 1941 (Jean’s birth year) and 1955 (the year I was born), with the death registered in the Essex S.W. District, which I knew to be the area where he’d lived all his adult life and therefore the likeliest area where he’d died. I found three possible candidates:
Frank J. French - aged 75 - died Jul-Sep 1942 (born 1867)
Frank French - aged 69 - died Jan-Mar 1948 (born 1879)
Frank J. French - aged 64 - died Oct-Dec 1952 (born 1888)
Years of birth are not given in the register of deaths, so I worked them out by subtracting their ages at the time of death from the year they died. Then I worked out their ages in 1915 when my father was born. The first Frank would have been 48, the second Frank 36 and the third Frank 27 years old. I felt intuitively that the first Frank was too old to be a likely candidate, the second was borderline, which left the third as the most likely candidate.
I rang Jean to tell her what I’d found. She was doubtful that the third Frank would turn out to be the “real” grandfather Frank; she seemed to remember being younger than eleven years old when he died, so she favoured the middle Frank, who’d died in 1948 when she was seven. Also, as we didn’t have a copy of our father’s birth certificate, I’d already ordered one, which would take about a week to arrive. This would provide the address where our father’s parents were living when Dad was born, as well as confirming his mother’s full name, including her maiden name. Jean had an idea that her first name might have been Elizabeth — which I thought was most likely: grandfather Frank John French had passed his forenames on to his son (Frank John Edward), so I thought it reasonable to suppose that if his wife was indeed an Elizabeth, they would have named their only daughter Elizabeth too — and we knew Dad had a younger sister called Elizabeth.
Meanwhile, to help narrow things down, I searched the Marriage entries for a Frank French marriage in the year before his son was born, i.e. 1914. I found one: a Frank J. French married a woman with the surname Lewis in the West Ham District of London in July-September 1914. I cross-referenced this by searching for a Lewis marriage to a French in the West Ham District in the same quarter of 1914, and found it: an Elizabeth E. Lewis married a man with the surname French.
When my father’s birth certificate arrived, it confirmed, in very neat hand-writing, that our grandmother’s name was, indeed, what we’d surmised — Elizabeth Eleanor French, formerly Lewis. They lived in Church Road, Leyton. Grandfather Frank’s occupation was listed as Cabinet Makers [sic] Pine Worker.

My father’s immediate family tree
I’ve ordered my grandparents’ marriage certificate, so that I can pinpoint the exact date of their marriage. Meanwhile, something interesting reveals itself by examining the dates already established: my father’s parents married on a date between the 1st of July and the 30th of September 1914. My father was born on the 3rd of January 1915 … which is somewhat less than nine months after their marriage.
While registrations of births and deaths rely on a member of the new-born’s or the deceased’s family or friends actually doing the registering, and sometimes there can be quite a gap between the event and the act of registration, marriages are conducted by officials who register the event immediately. So it’s most unlikely that my grandparents married in the previous quarter of 1914, i.e. during April, May or June. Even if it turns out that they married on 1st July, that was only six months before my father was born.
So it seems he was conceived out of wedlock — not an unusual event in those days, especially with World War One looming and soldiers being sent to the front never knowing whether they would return alive. My grandfather Frank would have been around 26 years old and was most probably conscripted into the armed forces (though I’ve yet to confirm that). I can imagine a scenario where he and his sweetheart Elizabeth took the opportunity to indulge in a little intimacy before he went off to war, after which Elizabeth soon found she was pregnant and Frank then “did the right thing” by marrying her as soon as possible.
My sister Jean remembers little about grandfather Frank’s demeanor — but she does recall that in the few years she knew him before he died, he was what she described as a “hard man”, often ordering his wife around in an unpleasant way. “I remember one time, when we were visiting, how he just sat in his armchair,” she recounted to me, “while he shouted at this wife to go and lug the coal in for the fire — and she was only a slight thing,” she added. “He wasn’t a nice man. The family didn’t really want anything to do with him.”
I suppose it’s possible that grandfather Frank, while “doing the right thing”, was very unhappy at being “trapped” into a marriage he really didn’t want and he took it out on his wife for years afterwards. Or perhaps his unpleasant manner in later years can be put down to having lived through the horrors of the trenches in the Great War. Maybe it was a combination of the two — but whatever the reasons, it’s a shame to discover there’s what sounds like such a nasty bloke in my tree.
I still felt reasonably confident that the Frank J. French who died in 1952 was the correct one to follow, so I ordered his death certificate. This would give me his exact date of death and the name of the person who registered it. While I waited for it to arrive, I checked the birth records for likely candidates that corresponded with 1888, his year of birth. There were only two:
Frank French - Yeovil - born Oct-Dec 1888
Frank French - Tendring - born Jan-Mar 1889
I was particularly interested in the Yeovil birth because Yeovil is in Somerset, far west of London — but it’s the county in which I now live. Tendring is in Essex, on the east coast of England and relatively close to the east side of London where grandfather Frank eventually settled — but more difficult for me to travel to, if it proves necessary, in order to check local parish records first-hand.
Because of the delays that often ensue between a birth event and its registration, it was reasonable to suppose the “Yeovil” Frank could have been born anywhere in the six month period between the 1st of July and the 31st December 1888, while the “Tendring” Frank could have been born between the 1st of October 1888 and the 31st March 1889. Both of them would have been 64 years of age if they’d died in 1952.
Jean feels convinced the “Tendring” Frank, having his roots closer to east London, is the more likely candidate, while I favour the “Yeovil” Frank because of his Somerset connection. The problem I face in deciding which of these two Franks is actually the real grandfather Frank is that the latest available online Census information is from 1901, and while I’ve been able to find both Franks living in their home counties in that Census, at present I have no clue as to their movements between 1901 and 1915, by which time grandfather Frank had married Elizabeth, sired my father and had settled in Church Road Leyton. The 1911 Census would be invaluable in filling in this gap — but because of the “100-year law” restricting the publication of official records, it won’t be released to the public until 2011.
The death certificate for my choice of the Frank-who-might-be-Grandad arrived: I was correct. It confirmed that this Frank John French died on the 20th of October 1952, aged 64. His occupation was listed as a Journeyman Cabinet Maker. He’d been living in Farmilo Road, Leyton — the same address he’d been living at in 1939 when my Mum and Dad were married (the district boundaries must have changed in the meantime because Farmilo Road had changed from being in Walthamstow to Leyton). The death was registered by his son (my father) F. J. French, living in Lea Bridge Road, Leyton — the address where I was to be born two and a half years later.
Being keen to research “Yeovil” Frank’s roots, I ordered his birth certificate. While I waited for it arrive, I started digging into the records to see what else I could discover about him and his family.
It’s at this point I’ll now split my research into separate branches, written up in pages rather than posts — one following “Yeovil” Frank, the other tracing “Tendring” Frank. I’ve not done much on “Tendring” Frank yet, but I’ve found out quite a lot about “Yeovil” Frank’s line — and uncovered a number of intriguing mysteries along the way …
To read about “Yeovil” Frank, click here.
To read about “Tendring” Frank, click here.
Update 25th February 2009: Further research has shown that neither of these two candidates can be my grandfather. Read the next post in the series, published 25th February 2009: My Family Tree: Root And Branch Reform.
Feel free to append comments about this research here on this post.
I’m exhausted just trying to take all this in, carry on the good work!!
Hi Fiona — thanks for dropping by.
Yes, it’s a complicated story, but as you’re my niece, I hope this proved to be particularly fascinating reading for you!
Fascinating reading. I too am a Somerset researcher, but no French in my family … yet.
A few tips: GenesReunited is a very expensive way to search records. Some are available online free. Freebmd (Google it) gives you births deaths and marriages, easily searched by name.
Here are online parish records (early ones): http://www.wsom.org.uk/
http://www.ancestry.co.uk is worth subscribing to — it holds thousands of records and is easily searched.
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp is the Latter Day Saints site — you can search the IGI here and the 1881 Census for free.
Another tip is that on many censuses, the term “daughter-in-law” is used to refer to a step child; I am not sure, but “sister-in-law” may also be used to refer to a step-sister.
Hope this helps.
Good luck with your research
Bev
I think it is fascinating to trace your family tree and I think you have done well. I have often thought about doing something similar but I understand from a friend who has traced her family quite a long way back that it is very costly. Good luck with your research.
Hi Bob
think I found Eliza J French in 1901
Eliza J French
[Eliza J Hellins]
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Daughter
Mother’s Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Dalwood, Devon, England
Civil Parish: Dalwood
Ecclesiastical parish: Stockland
Town: Dalwood
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Registration district: Axminster
Sub registration district: Chardstock
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 53
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza J French 42
Mary Hellins
With her mother Mary Hellins in Dalwood, Devon
ref RG13/2018 9g 8
So I think Eliza Jane may have been married before, hence Marwood.
Am off to check Freebmd
Bev
Hi Bob
Mystery solved!
1861 census RG9/1372 pg 11
Dalwood Devon
Eliza, aged 2, with mum Mary Marwood single and grandparents
Freebmd marriages mar qtr 1871 Axminister dist 5b 13
Nicholas Ellens & Mary Marwood
So I am afraid that you are not immune to the shame that has befallen so many of us, in that your great-great granny was illegitimate, so Ellen Hellins was indeed her half-sister.
There is a marriage for Ellen Hellins in Jun qtr 1901 on Freebmd
Hope this helps.
Bev
I too am exhausted after our day out searching. But I was pleased it proved to be beneficial for you xx
Good news for you Bob – the 1911 census will actually be released next year, online, in glorious technicolour.
Register on http://www.1911census.co.uk to get updates or to read more information.
Best Wishes,
Ian
Phew! A rush of comments — thank you all!
Ian — that’s exciting news about the 1911 Census — thanks for letting me know.
Marcy — Thanks my sweet, but as you now know, and I will shortly reveal, things haven’t turned out quite as I expected …
chrisb — thanks for your supportive comment. Unfortunately, as will be revealed shortly, I didn’t actually do that well after all!
Bev — You deserve a Gold Star for your efforts on my behalf! Thank you so much! If only I could say it wasn’t all in vain …
News came in the post this morning (Monday 1st December) that has thrown a HUGE spanner in the works. I’ll be writing it up in a proper post as soon as possible, but suffice to say that I now have definitive proof showing that neither “Yeovil” Frank nor “Tendring” Frank can be my real grandfather.
So while I would not say that the research I’ve done so far on both lines has been a waste of time, because it’s taught me some valuable lessons — and on “Yeovil” Frank’s side, in particular, it’s been a fascinating journey — I have to admit that, unfortunately, I’ve been researching the wrong branches of the French family line.
I therefore have to go back to grandfather Frank, and use what I now know about his father, and start all over again.
Whilst I’m down-hearted (I really wanted my roots to be here in Somerset), I’m certainly not defeated!
Awesome research, Bob! … My ancestors apparently come from Spain from my mother’s side … Oh, by the way, TAG! Hope you like lemonade!
http://sfgirl-thealiennextdoor.blogspot.com/2008/11/lemonade-from-lemons.html
SF Girl — aww, thanks! I like lemonade!
Shame about my research — as I mentioned in a previous comment to this post, it’s not panned out quite as I expected. I’ve still to write up what’s happened because, having been forced to go back almost to square one and start once more in a different direction, I’m still gathering information and I don’t want to put my foot in it again by jumping the gun! But I will write another post about it as soon as I can.
Hi Bob. Fascinating account of your initial research! But as you’re learning, the journey often takes you down the wrong road, requiring a return to a proven point to begin anew. Don’t give up. It took me about 15 years to discover, then prove, my own Somerset roots were in several villages near Taunton. It only took that long due to time-outs to research other branches. But in 2003, I made the long-dreamed-of journey from the U.S. to visit the church in West Monkton where it’s believed my 7th great-gf John Gatchell and brother Samuel were baptised circa 1611. (Proof that English blood will always find its way home!) I hope someday to return to visit the birthplaces of my mother’s father and his people in Cumbria.
Ditto to what Bev said about less expensive ways than GenesReunited to get the records you need. The LDS site, http://www.familysearch.org, is one, but be careful to use only records which say “extracted from original source”. Avoid “Records submitted by —”, as more often than not aren’t documented (or only wishful thinking on the part of the submitter). The *free* site I use most is RootsWeb.com, which has a link to the BMD on the main page. For more in-depth records…i.e. *not* free…like Bev, I recommend Ancestry. I’ve been a subscriber for many years and couldn’t live without it. Living in the U.S., in order to access UK records (including Scotland!), I finally bit the bullet last year and upgraded to a “World” subcription. But you only need the “Basic” plan, and all subscription levels are available on a monthly payment plan.
Now off to read the two Frank entries!
JamaGenie — Hi there! Thanks for your comments and advice. It’s much appreciated.
I’ve now established, with 99.9% certainty (I’m waiting until after Christmas to order some more certificates), that my line of the French family lived in the environs of north London (i.e. in places such as Islington, Edmonton, Tottenham and Walthamstow) going as far back as the mid-1800s.
My great-great grandfather was a Robert French who was born in Suffolk around 1831 and who then, at some point, moved to Clerkenwell, London, thus migrating my French family line into the capital city from the countryside of the east of England.
Along the way he married a woman called Jane, who was born in Piccadilly (then in Middlesex, now in London’s posh “West End”). One of their sons was my great-grandfather, Frank (who married a woman called Elizabeth Foster, also from Suffolk), and one of their sons was my grandfather, Frank.
Some further intriguing mysteries have arisen, regarding changing forenames and children born out of wedlock, but I’m waiting to write all that up when I have definitive documentation to prove things out.
I’ve stuck with GenesReunited for now, as I’m paid up until March 2009; I signed up to Ancestry.co.uk for the two week free trial and then dropped out just before the paid subscription was due to kick in, as it was about to take about £109 for an annual sub and this would have drained my limited finances somewhat! The births, marriages and deaths records provided by both sites are, of course, identical, because they come from the same source. The only difference I’ve found so far is that Ancestry’s copies can be better quality and easier to read in some cases.
I’ll need access to Scottish records at some point because my mother’s line has Scottish connections, so I’ll probably go back to Ancestry later in 2009 if I can’t find them elsewhere for free, because GenesReunited currently doesn’t hold any Scottish records and Ancestry does.
There are, as you say, other places online to look through various records, but I’m learning by experience that not all of them are complete, nor are they necessarily based on source material, so I’m picking my way carefully and patiently.
It’s a fascinating hobby — obsession, even — that’ll keep me going for many years to come!
Merry Christmas to you!
Ian,
I believe that my father (now deceased) and I both knew your father, Frankie French. My father, Frederick Constable, was an electrical engineer with the LEB at Cathall Road, Leyton, and then at Church Hill, Walthamstow, in the 50′s & 60′s. I was a draughtsman at Church Hill from 1962 for 7 years.
Was your father also an artist ? I am pretty sure that we had a couple of paintings, that Dad said were painted by your father.
As a young child I well recall going to Xmas Parties at Cathall Road in the early 50′s, and have some photos of those times. Did your sister Jean go to these?
Would be good to swap some memories.
Roy C
Roy — what a great way to kick off the New Year! Thanks so much for taking the time to write. Extraordinary to discover, so many years after he died, that my dad was known to at least some of his work colleagues as “Frankie” — I’d never even considered it. It’s added a certain cheerful jauntiness to the memories I have of him (precious few, as he died when I was only nine and I’d only ever known him as being ill with Buerger’s Disease). That’s marvellous, so thank you.
My dad was an artist, in that he created pictures from wood using the craft known as marquetry, though he might also have painted. (I’ll ask my sister, Jean.) I believe he took up marquetry while convalescing after losing both legs during World War II — not due to being injured on the battle-front, but drinking bad water while stationed in Palestine. (At least, that’s what Mum always said — it affected his circulation, then gangrene attacked his feet and quickly spread up both legs. Both were amputated just above the knee.) He’d have got the knack for working in wood in general, and with veneers in particular, from his father, another Frank, who was a journeyman cabinet maker by trade (though being only a “journeyman”, this meant his work wasn’t particularly outstanding; he must have supplemented his income by doing all sorts of furniture repairs and refurbishments, as well as building cabinets from scratch).
It’s to my father’s great credit — and thanks also to the fantastic support provided by Roehampton Hospital, who got him back on his feet again by fitting him with his false legs — that he managed to avoid following in his father’s footsteps and instead went into electrical engineering as a draughtsman. If I remember correctly, he was one of the principal draughtsmen who drew up the cabling blueprints for the electric lighting system at the upgraded Green Man Roundabout junction on the A11 at Leytonstone in east London in the early sixties. Perhaps you and/or your father worked on that project?
I’ll ask Jean about the Christmas parties at Cathall Road in the early 50s — she’s about to send me two photo albums she’s put together, containing dozens and dozens of old photos from the family cardboard boxes, so it’ll be interesting to see what’s in them.
Anyway, thanks so much for writing, Roy. I wish you all the best for 2009. Do please keep in touch.
Hi
This is such useful information – thank you for posting it. I’ve just started the quest to find my family roots and know for certain that my maternal great grandparents are Tom and Sarah French (nee Melhuish) born circa Tom (1866) and Sarah (1868). I’ve located their gravestone in Wambrook church cemetary. Buried immediately behind them are Joseph French (born around 1860) and Ann French (wife) (born around 1862). Since they are buried at Wambrook I can only assume that they must be related in some way to the Somerset French’s you investigated but there doesn’t seem to be a mention of them in your writings. Don’t suppose you came across them?
Thanks again
Shirley
Hi Bob — I have been doing family tree research for about 15 years and have traced my family along some branches to well beyond 1066 and will be submitting more of my tree to English Heritage soon due to royal connections — Norman, Anglo-Saxon, Viking and Scottish kings, nobles and barons — not forgetting the peasants and paupers.
In other branches I continue to hit brick walls, mainly due to the surnames Wood and Smith in the central London areas — but more and more records are surfacing now and access easier. I use as many sources as I can and have even moved to Suffolk for six months on one occasion to find graves, monuments and visit local archive offices — e.g. Bury St Edmunds and Cambridge — a wealth of info was discovered. Plus, I was able to walk in the footsteps of my ancestors, returning with photos, audio recordings, pamphlets etc.
I was born in Somerset to Londoners evacuated in the war — I love Somerset, but have not found any ancestors in this part of the world yet — I may need to go back 500 years or more before I find any. My royal connections come through the Stutevilles — French Barons who arrived with William The Conqueror — I am actually related to the latter via his sister who is an ancestral grandmother. Anyway, it is good that you are enjoying the tree experience — I am a subscriber to Ancestry.com and also use Family Tree Maker to store info. Ancestry are very good and are quite international when it comes to help with ancestors abroad.
Cheers for now! Sheila
Hi Sheila — wow, you really have been able to go back a long way!
I’ve been distracted from my own research for a while, but that’s one of the beauties of it — you can step back from it whenever you want or need to, and it’s still there when you return!
I’ve discovered that I, too, have connections to Suffolk, and will be publishing details — when I’ve got the time to write it up!
Hi Bob
Sorry to see that you found that Mark French of Brightlingsea was not your ancestor. However he was my great grandfather his daughter Daisy born in 1891 was my grand mother. I have a photograph of Mark French with his wife Rosie and all his children as listed helpfully by you. I also have a photograph of Mark French and the extended family outside no 1 and 3 Western Road (now No 9 and 11) including his father grandfather and mother and step mother (alive at the same time and no divorces) hence the two houses housing all the family!!
Regards
Matt
Reg
Sorry cocked that up. Mark French the father was my great grandfather. Mark French, the one you thought was your grand father, was my great uncle the master mariner.
Regards
Matt
Hi Matt, thanks so much for your comments! Always fascinating to read what other “Frenches” have to say, even if it’s a different branch of the tree! I haven’t gone any further yet with my researches for various reasons, but hope to pick it up again one day
Just a note to say that my grandfather, Walter French, was from Somerset. He moved to Pontyclun, Wales and married Alice Parker there. They had four children: Thomas, Jessie, Nora, and my mom, Peggy.
Peggy married Jerry Gerk (American) in the late 40′s. They had 8 children, and I am one of them. 5 of the 8 of us still live in Sheboygan, WI, where we all grew up.